I've noticed that NPT has for all intents and purposes taken a strong position in favor of closing down the Drakes Bay Oyster Farm in Point Reyes NS because it is in a potential wilderness area and because it's a "commercial enterprise" in such an area. At the same time, there have been several articles encouraging people to visit the High Sierra Camps in Yosemite as well as Bearpaw HSC in SEKI, which are in potential wilderness and are clearly money making operations for Delaware North - serviced by helicopters, using commercial cooking facilities, and with many permanent buildings.

Several of the comments in the scoping process are suggestions that the Bearpaw HSC in SEKI be removed and "returned to its natural state".

The Drakes Bay Oyster Farm situation is a great illustration of how our Manichean (i.e., black-and-white, zero-sum) approach to Wilderness produces bizarre and undesirable results. With luck, the oyster farm will remain, given that U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) seems to be backing its continued existence.

What is the purpose of scenery if only a very few can see it. Closing Bear Paw meadows would close off backcountry hiking to the middle to older demographic that pay the bulk of the taxes that support the parks. The backcountry would only be available to the twenty something's that make up the largest group of backpackers. If the presence of permanent structures bothers them, then they should also call for the removal of the backcountry ranger stations.

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What is the purpose of scenery if only a very few can see it. Closing Bear Paw meadows would close off backcountry hiking to the middle to older demographic that pay the bulk of the taxes that support the parks. The backcountry would only be available to the twenty something's that make up the largest group of backpackers. If the presence of permanent structures bothers them, then they should also call for the removal of the backcountry ranger stations.

It's incredibly easy for some to paint others as "elitists". I've seen people complaining that the users of such backcountry facilities were "elitists" because of the costs of using such concessions. Of course there is the opposite, where people are described as "elitist" in only supporting use by the most physically fit (i.e. must haul in your own stuff without the use of horses or stock) and bringing in expensive high tech gear such as titanium stoves, expensive water filters, $300 backpacks, etc.

It's easy to hurl insults and describe people as the "other" who is out of touch with the majority.

Y_P_W: Always enjoy your common sense posts avoiding the self centered pitfalls that seem to drive the conversations. There is a conflict free zone surrounding all my trips into the backcountry. Interesting how things work out for everyone when the effort is made. Great times of breakthroughs and shared experiences! A major benefit that carries on in day to day stuff.

But neither of you disagreed with my statement of which groups would be kept out of the backcountry if Bearpaw Meadow were closed. Excluding people who previously enjoyed the experience is not good policy.

Anonymous, why not? Cyclists were kicked out of wilderness in 1986 eventhough we were previously allowed to enjoy it.

Keeper mentions his/her perception that "self-centered pitfalls . . . seem to drive the conversations" on NPT. It wouldn't surprise me if he/she includes we critical mountain bikers, because we are certainly regular complainers.

This is, however, the inevitable result of federal land policy that divides people not necessarily by their impact on the land or on other visitors, but, artifically, on whether their means of conveyance was in use in 1870 or not.

The Harvard Environmental Law Review had an article, "The Problem With Wilderness," that talks about this problem: rigid categorical exclusions inevitably cause the out-groups to raise a furore:

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/elr/vol32_2/Laitos%20Final%20Fi...

It's worth reading.

Good policy would assess environmental and social impacts (i.e., costs) of uses, weigh those costs against the social benefits of those uses, and manage land accordingly. Saying so is not self-centered in my opinion.