National Parks Traveler

So the solution to Wyoming's troublesome, and potentially dangerous, grizzly bear population is to ship them to California so they can be troublesome and potentially dangerous for Californians? Geez, thanks...I'd like to say, on behalf of California, we pass, but we are so stupid here you could probably get us to pay for them.

Well said ! Wolves are on there way. More Goverment jobs !  

I too am a Wyoming native.  Born and raised up the Southfork outside of Cody.  When I first started hunting and hiking the mountains that create the Southern Border of Yellowstone I was more terrified of finding a mountain lion than a bear.  But around 2001 we had a friend that saw 7 different grizzlies on one ridge of a mountain.  I knew things were changing.  Now the deer and elk herds we use

If they want to relocate them to California then California can relocate the criminals to Wyoming.  

My point only is the proposal isn't worthy of the ridicule you tagged it with. Lets discuss it without spite. Recently, too many articles here have started or contianed snarky comments that are totally irrelevant to the story.  As I mentioned before, this story made ridicule of the proposal but didn't contain a single reason to object.     

Leave the bears alone . Stay out of there home. PRACTICE LIVE AND LET LIVE. THESE BEARS HAVE A RIGHT TO THERE LAND.  

Kurt Repanshek: EC, I'm not sure there ever has been a listed grizzly bear trapped and relocated to another state. Regardless, I was just pointing out that it's not as easy as it sounds. You can either agree with my point or explain why it's not. Saying you don't have the answer doesn't make my points disappear.

Karla, incredible comment! I live in Montana and have my whole life! Grizzly mailings are a normal problem on this side of the mountain anymore also. Growing up nobody ever worried about protection or grizzly attacks but now we carry pistols AND bear spray! It's Damn time that someone finally come up with a solution though!

wild - except they died.  Seems there is a much more successful history on Grizzly relocations.  

EC, I'm not sure there ever has been a listed grizzly bear trapped and relocated to another state. Regardless, I was just pointing out that it's not as easy as it sounds. You can either agree with my point or explain why it's not. Saying you don't have the answer doesn't make my points disappear.

Many Californians would love to see the grizzly return, and there is ample habitat, but I doubt the politicians would be courageous enough to allow it.  Then again, gray wolves have returned to California on their own, so....

When was the last time an ESA-listed grizzly bear was relocated? Or even one not covered by the ESA?

EC, going back to your original question, I do think there would be some rather large logistical problems with the senator's proposal, even if the ESA wasn't one of them. 1) Getting California's buy-in, which seems questionable.

Karla, the facts stand up in the story. To that point, grizzlies in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem regained threatened status under the Endangered Species List last fall when a judge overturned the delisting. See the link in the story.

I don't see how a state legislature could envision themselves having the power to regulate federal lands, especially against federal wishes.

They would love California!!!

Figured out ESA.  What would be the problem?  ESA lets you kill them but not move them?    

Yes. Career seasonal and part time employees are having some delays though.

I feel sorry for Federal servants having to experience the shutdown. It's sad when any working person loses pay for anytime period.  When I was a working man in private industry, I experinced work shutdoiwns and I never got a dime of back pay. I just had to grow up and carry the load with no hope of pay.  So, Fed servants, please appreciate that you are getting paid for not working.  

Is there really any doubt at this point that the answer has to be CLOSED ?!!!?

I seem to be in the minority.  As I have planned many vacations around visiting many of our National Parks:  I say it is not fair to us citizens to close OUR parks.  The Friends of National Parks did a great job at Volcano National Park in January 2019 keeping the park open and clean.  (The volunteers were paid by The Friends of National Parks). A very good place to give your money friends.